lyric and elizabeth abby and libby

The houses were next door. The same guy did both. You sent December 7, 2020 RIP angels I hope ur justice is one day found! Many years ago the man that lived there kidnapped and killed a small child. Once Lyrics mother, Misty, returned to pick her up, the family grew concerned. Thats why i think the drug dealers have something to do with it. That book was amazing, still have an hour or two left to listen on Audible. or. Gilbert Drive in Evansdale and it was his mom he lived with. On Monday afternoon, December 10, 2012, the Iowa State Medical Examiners Office confirmed the bodies found on Wednesday were those of Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins. People will always judge (not all people) but there judgements, views, or comments , are just speculation From what information is available in the media , which isnt the most reliable source as of lately. Weve all held out pretty strong that theres going to be a positive outcome.. 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You mean like a door closer? the similarities are super weird but some of them are hard to come up with an explanation for. I pray every day for you and Your family and Pray that today you will get Justice for Elizabeth , I share The information every day online in Hopes it may help. XXXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 Getter done. Were there two family Press J to jump to the feed. Abby & Libby were killed on February 13, 2017 2/13/17 21317 The dates being mirror images of each other really hit home for me because I have two sons who are 21 years apart and, despite there being 365 days in a year, the older one was born March 28th - 328 - and the younger one was born August 23rd - 823. And considering your past,maybe you cant pass one. They all remain in the Evansdale/Independence area. I believe with all of my heart one of two theories as fact. I dont know her name I will be in Evansdale Wednesday There is more out there! Here is the tragic story of the Evansdale murders. Related: Face on the Milk Carton: What Happened to Johnny Gosch? I have been unable to find out if my suspect, Chad Fitz is related to Russell Fitz. They have the girls DNA I am sure and if the did a good investigation they kept personal items of the girls. And found by hunters, so obviously people hunt there. In no way do i feel attacked by you making a comment, thats why we are members of this site, to bring minds together. I was watching the ID Channel, and a episode came on about a prisoner named Kevin Sweat from OK state prison. No one could imagine that these two little girls would never return home, and even though their bicycles and belongings were found within hours of them being reported missing, it would take months to find their bodies and lay them to rest. Lyric and Elizabeth went missing on 7/13, not 1/13. I see it was on the news and in the paper back when Fitz just died this spring. The one that kind of got the ball rolling was actually several months later. Were coming for you, Trelka said. Lyric Cook-Morrissey, 10, and Elizabeth Collins, 8, disappeared on July 13, 2012, while they were riding their bikes in Evansdale. The street meets up with the bike trail where the girls bikes were found. Follow ICC on Twitter. When does deer hunting usually start? No witnessnes, no evidence, nobody speaking up. I just dnt knw. The timing of things couldnt be more suspicious. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. From a psychology stand point, this is the reason the killer targets two girls, because part of his thrill is the fear shown by the second victim watching the first die, knowing whats coming next. A very similar case just happened here: https://www.in.gov/isp/delphi.htm, As soon as I heard about the two girls from Indiana I instantly thought of Elizabeth and Lyric case. The Evansdale victims weren't found for 5 months, with more than a month of hot weather, the decomposition would have been very rapid. the police chief he replaced remains on duty but, stepped down from chief or even assistant chief to be a regular patrol officer. Community members held a candlelight vigil Wednesday night at Meyers Lake at the same spot where theyd set up a makeshift memorial after the girls disappeared in July. Related: 9 Real-Life Kidnapping Stories That Still Haunt Us. According to the USA Today story, Meyers said authorities were taking a two-pronged approach to any comparisons: laboratory analysis of forensic evidence, and investigative work that could pinpoint, among other things, where Klunder may have been when other people went missing. Here are bits of my conversations with XXXXX. Poor girls :(. Frita, even while criticizing someones use of the word prolly, your own comment contained three grammatical errors. In Delphi, it appears that the posed bodies were meant to be discovered, unless, of course, the killer had intended to take them to another location, but was forced to leave/kill them where they were found. Easy to get VIN, get crushers records, date, etc. Sorry if this has been mentioned before but its my first post after catching up on the Iowa murders but just watching LordanArt's latest Elizabeth and Lyric video and wondered about a possible connection between the Iowa deaths of 13th July and Delphi's 13th February dates? https://www.kcrg.com/video/2022/07/10/evansdale-cousins-went-missing-years-ago-this-week/ I really hope they find the sick person behind this. Lyric and Elizabeth were in IA. Lyric was preceded in death by her paternal great-grandfather, Jim Weikert and maternal grandfather, Ray Cook. He had all kinds of experience with sex trafficking crimes. Join Facebook to connect with Abby Libby and others you may know. I think maybe cops and family are all to blame,this should have been solved right after those girls were found,cops and family must have known right away who did it they just dont want to hurt the parents,they hide behind lack of evidence,in any other state this would have been solved years ago,but not in rural Iowa where hardly any crime ever goes to trial because they plead everything down or if trial its 99% always a guilty verdict,so my opinion is nothing will ever happen,which is sad. Drew- so sorry that on top of losing your daughter you have to deal with crap like this. My pet theory is that Evansdale and Delphi are connected. What is prolly????? Better believe it .you are a nasty person and have no class someday our paths will cross and I cant wait you are a troll.drew Collins father of Elizabeth June Marie. 2 young girls, white truck. But Lyric and Elizabeth were found at Bremer County's Seven Bridges Wildlife Park. He is now deceased, but he had a habit of abducting two girls at a time for his perversions. They did so without attacking anyone else in the process. They were also in agreement that Seven Bridges Wildlife Area represented an important part of the case, The Gazette reported Feb. 3, 2015. The two girls were nowhere to be found, nor was there any idea of what could have happened to them. Its not a subject I want to talk about with my frail mother in law. :-(. Lyric Ray Lynn Cook-Morrisey (courtesy Locke Funeral Home) was born on October 2, 2001, in Waterloo to Dan and Misty Morrissey. I think you will all agree with me that Seven Bridges is extremely remote, Smock said. And for justice. Most seen was Lyrics unconditional love for her family and her special love for her brother Dillin. He is also listed as a Missing Person from North Liberty, Iowa, according to the Iowa Dept. At the same time, investigators said Dan and Misty were not considered suspects in the girls disappearance, and were looking into their backgrounds and that of their associates only so as not to discount any possible leads. You know what needs to be focused on? Investigative Journalist | Criminology, Psychology & Sociology B.A. I can pass your name and info to them so they can contact you, since you know the facts. As in all small towns, everyone knows everyone and the girls and their families, and the murders were the topic of conversations for some time in all the places she hung out. Either way, look deeper into the families connection with the drug world and you WILL find the killer/killers. The FBIs Behavioral Analysis Unit, which develops profiles of suspects, had released new details drawn from the FBI study and unveiled those conclusions on the Evansdale police web page for Lyric and Elizabeth, the Courier said. Evansdale crime 7-13-2012, Delphi 2-13-2017 perfect reversal of each other. I am perplexed though about the investigators telling the neighbor to watch their girls while the RA search warrant was being served (if indeed that's true)- makes me think they aren't limiting him to one double homicide?? Two friends out together enjoying nature on a nice day. This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN. You sent December 7, 2020 Smock made a plea to the public to identify anyone they believe is familiar with the Seven Bridges Wildlife Area. Believe me, sometimes the general public knows way more than law enforcement agencies will ever know and to me those people are just as guilty as the killers for keeping that information secret. I like the updates. Do it for those girls. KCCI said court records show Altmayer was working as a traveling automobile damage field inspector. Some have speculated if a serial killer is haunting the Midwestern United States. I dont believe its linked.. but its still the only similar case in the last decade that i know off, so taking a deeper look ..this is another case we know nothing about.. actually its more secretive cause the info in delphi was exposed one way or another >>>not this one, were they kept alive after abduction or killed before being foundwhat was the state of the bodies and was it possible to know anything from them, but what i found interesting is that one family of one of the victims also had criminal history with drugs and so on, two ppl confessed to the murder but were ruled out as fake confession, this alerts you to have possible it is to get a fake confession for things like that, why is this case still coldi heard they only shared a detail years after about a car ? I was inside the courtroom on Friday. The girls were seen at about 12:23 p.m. July 13 on Brovan Boulevard in Evansdale, and then spotted between 12:30 and 1 p.m. on Gilbert Drive not far from Meyers Lake, a popular fishing and recreation area in the northeastern Iowa city of about 4,700 residents. Volunteers thought up the project and put it together through fundraising. I agree, great post. Iowa Cold Cases But most likely drug money and prison time. Of the $170,500 reward, officials said $150,000 was raised privately and by the FBI for information leading to an arrest and conviction in the case. Cant forget his pig slaughter plant signature either. Just saying I hope they arrest someone for these little girls to finally be in peace. I always thought it was someone working for the DOT. Do you recall where you learned all of this? Despite the connections, Indiana State Police dont believe both cases are tied to each other. Thats obviously not a significant similarity though. Good job Prolly. I think most of us have read about Lyric Cook, 10 years old and Elizabeth Collins, 8 years old. Scott Medhaug was staying at Debra Kings. Some of this is simple speculation, but I hope you understand why I am drawing some inferences that I draw. Thankfully, we know for every county, every city, what unsolved missing persons cases they have, said Gerard Meyers, assistant director of field operations of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation in a USA Today story published June 10, 2013. This perpetrator just died in prison and she and her family were discussing his obituary. I was just watching Dr.Oz and seen a story about a beautiful young girl in Ohio Siera that was murderd in 2016 they found the serial killer to me he looks as if he could fit the description of the guy on the tracks with these two little girls that one of the girls filmed. A $150,000 reward, raised privately and by the FBI, is available for information leading to an arrest and conviction in the case. Lots of people in Iowa are on meth. Find ICC on Facebook I was so upset when they were found. A lot of the similarities are more likely the result of circumstance. Even if they were the meth dealers of the year, did they deserve this? They would also target drop off spots for their bodies where know abductions had taken place so the public would automatically think it was a child molester/killer. December 5th. Its not really a destination or a place anyone knows about except for locals. I didnt know what was going on until a classmate told me: The missing girls have been found. Rest in peace. He wasnt even familiar with the area, and where the girls were found at Seven Bridges Wildlife Area is the kind of place where only locals who grew up in the area go to. I was a kid at the time, and I remember going to school the day they found their bodies. We thought if youre riding your bike or walking, its a nice way to memorialize people that you dont want to forget.. He's wagon of mail was found a block away from his house. Im glad Im not the only one with that theory! I know, that is what I have been asking you. There would not have been much of the remains left by January 2013. I agree that the one set of parents owned money to a drug dealer and they werent paying so maybe they took the one and they couldnt leave a witness so they took her to. I happen to be in the Evansdale and Delphi murders connected camp. My friends ex husband has a number of employees, he once had a public works position in XXXXXXXX and most of her family now works at XXXXXXXX. lyric and elizabeth abby and libby In fact she called us in Colorado the night the girls went missing. Talk to the police about it? The remembrance came with a message for the killer of the Black Hawk County girls. They were taken to an area that is very remote. But, it is one piece of the pie. Btw, only one set of parents was connected with drugs. May these little girls rest in peace, I remember this very sad just wish they found out who did it And may those girls rest in peace :(, But there were hopes that this case could have been solved if the man responsible for that kidnapping was also responsible for this kidnapping. Possible connection between Abby and Libby and Elizabeth and Lyric? They sent it to the cops: No response. FWIW, Dustin Honken and Angela Johnson, both small time meth dealers in the Mason City area, kidnapped and killed five people in 1993 order to send a message not to squeal. The girls went missing on July 13. Considering the snatch and grab scenario of young women nowadays youre not far off gramma. In 2013, Dan was sentenced to 90 years in prison with a 30-year mandatory minimum after he pled guilty to three sets of drug charges (some were before Lyrics disappearance and others after). ?) 2) Do you have an idea how ignorant you sound should have ended with a question mark, not a period, and it should have been any idea, not an idea. There is something wrong with you. Ive been thinking of them often latley as summer is now here and how heartbreaking it is that their family still does not have any more answers and that justice has not been brought. Also, as rare as abductions are, its even more unusual for two children to vanish at once. Elizabeth June Marie Collins (courtesy Overton Family Funeral Homes) was born at Allen Memorial Hospital in Waterloo, Iowa, on July 31, 2003, the daughter of Drew and Heather (Cook) Collins. Care to mention? If you'd like to reprint a post or case summary, please contact us with the name of the requested post/article. I think Klunder is probably the perpetrator of this crime. Also at the time the girls disappeared he lived on Gilbert Drive The little info being held back is necessary. You just dont remember it. It is very common for revenge to be taken out on the loved ones in this fashion. So, you must know exactly who did it and why. After walking around looking for the girls It was later confirmed by the Delphi Police in a Press Conference that it was indeed the bodies of Abby and Libby that had been found, thus throwing a. Here is where you may feel I am off track or speculating. Someone wanting money would keep them alive or the perception that they were alive in an effort to collect. Just have her take you on a tour and talk with her and her family and keep it confidential. It is not an area where you would find people fishing/hunting or using as a recreational spot. Or those girls saw something they shouldnt have. The offender is familiar with both Meyers Lake/Angels Park in Evansdale and Seven Bridges Wildlife Area in Bremer County; The suspect chose Seven Bridges because he or she was familiar with the area and knew it was secluded; The offender blends in with and may be part of the Evansdale, Bremer and surrounding communities; The suspect likely used quiet coercion to gain the girls compliance into leaving Meyers Lake, using a ruse or threats of violence, and that other possible characteristics include: The suspect may have been experiencing stress related to legal troubles, spousal problems, employment difficulties, financial strain or mental health issues in July 2012; The suspect may avoid discussing the case or showing interest in the matter but is likely following developments in the media; The offender may have attempted to abduct children or adults in the past; Following the disappearance, the suspect may have altered his or her physical appearance, such as changing hair style and facial hair. People on the crew could have seen them alone every day on those paths. How can someone live with themselves day to day? Im often wrong when I do and I find dont know what Im talking about. So now he leaves that Evansdale house after the murders and moves in with grandma (or mom) AGAIN, now in Readlyn, near the reserve! My thinking is maybe someone saw them from a road and it was a crime of opportunity. Dan and Misty Morrissey were sent to prison on unrelated drug charges after the girls disappeared, and Mortvedt said Misty Morrissey has since been released. In a press conference held at the Evansdale City Hall on Tuesday, Feb. 3, 2015, Evansdale Chief of Police Kent Smock said authorities were focusing their efforts on anyone who might be familiar with the remote Bremer County woodland where Lyric and Elizabeth were found in December 2012. Those girls probably saw them in the house and was never told they are bad people. I dont know how people can get away with murder. Unlike Lyric and Elizabeths case, Abby and Libbys bodies were found the next day. Three of their victims were an innocent woman and her two young daughters who happened to be dating one of Honkens former dealersthey were considered collateral damage in Honkens quest to shut his victims up. Jordi Faber that is a totally different kidnapping unfortunately. Theres many similarities. Best address match on Been Verified is 2568 Independence Ave Evansdale, IA 50707. I remember this :-(, I remember that was all over the local news for a long while. State police say more audio from libby german's cell phone was played for the victims' Investigators have explained that the details of the crime scene indicate a signature, which can help them identify the killer. were lyric and libby the main targets because of these? This beautiful girls deserve justice. That section of hwy 20 was under construction for months. They contacted law enforcement officials at 12:45 p.m. On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Chief Deputy Rick Abben with the Black Hawk County Sheriffs Office held a press conference to announce officials were confident the bodies were those of Lyric and Elizabeth. This site uses cookies to improve user experience. State investigators conducted a painstaking examination of potential similarities between the kidnapping and murder of Dayton teenager Kathlynn Shepard and missing person cases in Iowa, and in June 2013 a state official announced that potential connections were already being analyzed between Shepards murder and the Cook and Collins slayings. They said the car/truck stunk when they got it. On Thursday, August 21, 2014, Evansdale police unveiled a new web page http://evansdalepolice.org/latestonlyricandelizabeth.php to act as a clearinghouse for information on the unsolved case. They do mingle in the same places as the girls families and are personally acquainted with some of the family members, as well as with law enforcement officers. A short while later, they were spotted about a mile-and-a-half from their grandmothers house. Spewing awesomeness all over the web! Although I have to admit Id like hear what she has to say. they didnt go out and say ( we dont know how thy were killed ? The city of Evansdale planned a child safety day, and volunteers prepared for the Fourth Memorial Ride and Drive. The girls' bodies were found the following day, approximately half a mile from the bridge. get hypnotized. They decided to visit some historical places and streets of Delphi to hang around. The park where the girls were found is very remote and only the kind of place locals who grew up in the area ever visit. The responsible person might be someone that their families were acquainted with, but it could have been a stranger (doesnt happen as often, but it does happen). I cant imagine what their families have gone through with thier disappearance and deaths. I truly hope and Pray for Justice for Elizabeth and Lyric. Maybe they want everyone involved? Both occurred in tiny rural towns. They even tried to drain the lake to find something of value, but turned up short. This was in no way set up as if to send a message as dealers and the mafia do. Later that same day, the girls bikes and Elizabeths purse were found near the corner of Meyers Lake. Drew, if youre out there you and your family are victims too! But we do keep that in mind, we do check with other states to see if they have anything close and obviously the case in Iowa is probably the closest but we don't even know the cause of death in that one they didn't find the victims until later so it's hard to compare but it is similar. Investigators traveled to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in Virginia to discuss the case, and Smock said federal authorities were impressed with the investigators efforts thus far. How did someone get two girls into a vehicle off a bike trail with no one seeing the struggle? I dont believe these girls were killed by a juvenile offender or first-time offender, as the perpetrator took two victims at once, which is very risky. Then theres the reward. This is regarding the disappearance of Lyric and Elizabeth, the victims of a double homicide in Evansdale, Iowa. And the crimes he committed there and in Dayton seem to be somewhat similar. centennial high school stabbing; https na1 sabanow net saba web copa learning; chesham to london tube price; peter salisbury leicester mayor; solar buyback plans texas Thats one of the reasons weve involved, to remember these kids.. Many of my friends and I often engage in conversations about local crimes, cold cases, and unsolved murders. They were able to confirm a bunch of things that show he wasnt in the Evansdale area at the time. Motives. That and what kind of vehicle he had, where it went and why. Additionally, Cedar Valley Crime Stoppers has offered a $50,000 reward for anyone coming forward with information that simply leads to an arrest. I am not dan or misty I am my own person I have nothing to do with meth or people who do . Thats my theory. Being there was two girls, one watched the other die first, again, pointing back to the MO. I didnt say anything. The bodies were eventually identified as Elizabeth and Lyricfound 25 miles from where they originally went missing. My family refused to tell me because they didnt want to scare me deluded and risky It snowed and the perps walked over the new snow. The girls set out around noon that day. Lyric passed away on Friday, July 13, 2012. My friend said that her grown daughter came over and burst into tears and shared that R. Fitz had tried to molest her when she was a child. WTH? Dates seen March 2005. This is the most obscure area in the park and is next to I-350. There may be some similarities but you can find similarities in everything if you look hard enough. The trail that runs around the lake is now known as the Trail of Angels. The park sitting next to the lake will be known as Angels Park., There is a lot of memorials around the lake and throughout the bike trail in Evansdale, Jeff Dawson, Chairman of the Evansdale Parks Department told KCRG in a story that aired February 5, 2013. I am not saying he was involved, but he has connections to the area. You said it was his moms or grandmas house. Copyright 2023 Iowa Cold Cases, Inc. All rights reserved. Why not see who called in sick the day they disappeared? Case Summaries Excellent post. Try our coffee!! Look into James Brian Chadwell the II from Lafayette area. ?about that time. Hey Daniel, What do you think of Leazenbys recent statement that YOURE I have a feeling that these 2 girls knew their murderer. God bless ! The FBI eventually joined in the search, sending trained divers to Meyers Lake to search for the girls. He was just arrested for child sexual abuse and the victims were similar ages. Klunder served about two decades in prison, from 1992 to 2011, for previous kidnapping and assault charges. The more similarities you find, the more unlikely it becomes that this was the work of a serial killer. I want to lyric and Lizs life and death have meaning and make the changes nessasry to protect and to allow other children their freedom to play again. So do you know the name of the crusher and how did he Fitz die? Both crimes occurred less than a mile from a four- lane highway. And just what ARE they doing with any DNA they have? On February 6, 2013, officials announced that the trail and park at Meyers Lake would be renamed to honor the memory of Lyric and Elizabeth. No family deserves this to happen to their child. There is a clear victims similarity. The bigger, more robust girl in each pair had similar names. They either received drugs that couldnt be paid for or they stole drugs from dealer. 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